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The Dubscast, Volume 4: Minnesota Vikings’ Fans Need To Quit Whining About Losing Percy Harvin

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As a Philadelphia Eagle fan, of all people I know what it is like to watch your team languish in the doldrums of mediocrity.  For example, I know what it is like to watch a team enter a season with Jeff Kemp as the starting quarterback (shudder).  But I also know what it is like to watch your team take a giant, cathartic, “morning after over-doing it at the Chinese-buffet” kind of dump. Don’t act like you don’t know what I mean, not just the kind of dump Ron White says makes your pants fit better, but the kind that makes you lose another waist size from plunging that sucker through the choke-point known as standard plumbing.

That’s why today’s installment of the Dubscast is a plea to fans of the Minnesota Vikings…embrace the departure of Percy Harvin.  Getting rid of him is exactly one of those dumps I’m talking about, and it came with that “makes a cloud feel like pepper-spray covered cinder blocks” roll of Charmin available only to God and the president of the Teamsters’ Union, and even that deity-worthy wipe was printed on a first-round draft pick.

In other words, the only thing that will bind you up worse than eating 29 cheese wontons is a bad salary cap commitment, and that is only one of five key numbers J-Dub breaks down on why the Vikings are dodging a bullet with Harvin’s departure.

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12 comments on “The Dubscast, Volume 4: Minnesota Vikings’ Fans Need To Quit Whining About Losing Percy Harvin

  1. MaximumWage
    March 13, 2013

    Yeah they do! As a seattle fan I love it!


    • J-Dub
      March 14, 2013

      Sure, but remember, you now own the headaches the Vikings just dodged…


      • MaximumWage
        March 14, 2013

        True I know he’s got some problems


      • J-Dub
        March 14, 2013

        Yeah, and he is now worth $18 million against your salary cap over the next two seasons. Unless he becomes a first-level producer, he looks to be a salary cap casualty in year three or four of this new contract.


      • MaximumWage
        March 14, 2013

        Hold on hold on… We’ll see, you can do a “I told you so” a year from now if it turns out you’re right.


      • J-Dub
        March 14, 2013

        C’mon…there’s really no denying that in a league with a hard salary cap that Harvin has to produce given the money they invested or they will get rid of him. That’s all i’m saying. He may very well produce, but I’m betting against it.


  2. J-Dub
    March 14, 2013

    Not to mention, how quickly would Harvin be forgotten in Minnesota if the Vikings made a smart move and signed Greg Jennings away from the Packers?


  3. Matt Lawton, Hero to the AAC
    March 15, 2013

    First of all – let me share the extreme dissapointment in the webcast.

    I waited and waited for you to tear off your Twins hat to reveal a waterfall of beaded braids and then proceed to belt out “I just called to say I love you!!! And I mean it from the bottom of my heaaaaart!!!”

    Heres the problem with Harvin getting traded. I know you broke down WRs into 2 categories – elite and everyone else. This is demonstratively false.

    This is like saying MLB outfielders can be grouped into Mays, Mantle, Aaron and Lawton as the elite tier, then everybody else is interchangeable.

    I assume you view an elite 4, then everyone else is fungible. Heres the problem, you forgot the other group – Competent.

    Why do I insist on the Competent category? Because the Vikes currently do not employ anyone who fits the elite or competent ilk. Trust me, look at this list and tell me you wouldn’t trade Jerome Fucking Simpson for any of the top 50 recievers listed. http://www.junkyardjake.com/Rankings/wr.htm

    That means the rest of the NFL has nearly 2 recievers per team better than our current #1. Think about that for a second…

    You compared raw stats to ascertain value. Remember, value is relative. Knuckle shavers are way more inherently valuable to the President of the Ken Caminiti fanclub, than you or I.

    The sheer amount of need skews the value terribly.

    Having said that, your end analysis is correct. The 18m guaranteed is too much to pay any WR not named Fitzgerald or Megatron. Also, the Vikings can get nearly the same production in the draft or by signing Jennings.

    The outside the box thinking would be to give 80% of the Harvin money to Victor Cruz and ship the Giants our now redundant #23 pick as the required RFA compensation. We end up with a better pure reciever, with far less red flags for 80% of the cap hit in exchange for moving back in the 1st round to #25.

    Or just hope that Spielman can stay hot in the draft. Harrison Smith and Matt Kalil was a nice piece of analysis, scouting and trading by the Vikes. They arguably ended up with the best set of 2 players in the 2012 draft.


    • J-Dub
      March 15, 2013

      To be accurate, what I said was “There are about four WRs who are worth their weight in Spam.” What I also said was that as a class the value of WRs in general is over-rated. That whole thing about “relative value” is exactly why the Seahawks gave Harvin way too much money.

      As for the “competent” group you allude to…well, look at that list you linked. Tell me Jordy Nelson is still #3 if he wasn’t Aaron Rodgers favorite target. You can make this same argument with Wes Welker and his career with New England.

      Let’s say for the sake of argument you can have ANY WR you wish for the Vikes. Do you think Christian Ponder is the guy who can deliver the mail for him?

      That’s the whole problem with WRs. To be effective, as I said, they need a QB who can get them the ball, and an offensive line who can keep that QB on his feet. That’s also why I’m not buying the analogy to an outfielder. A guy can either hit or he can’t; he can track down a fly ball or he can’t. Outfielders don’t need a guy to get them the ball.

      Let’s take Jerome Simpson for example. He very easily could be Wes Welker. Right now, he could be the #2 receiver for the Patriots, and would be yet another Danny Amendola injury away from the #1 spot. What happens if a guy like Simpson all of a sudden is in a pass-happy offense and gets 125 balls thrown at him a season. Anybody can be a Welker and get 1,000 receiving yards 8 yards at a time.

      The reverse is true as well. Larry Fitzgerald is arguably the most talented WR in the league, and he is a complete non-factor because the Cardinals don’t have a QB.


  4. Matt Lawton, Hero to the AAC
    March 15, 2013

    PS: as long as were on Minnesota – I would encourage you to take a drive to Vegas and put a healthy wager on the over 67 total wins for the Twins. My god, less than 5% of teams all time have lost more than 95 games. Were bad, but no longer historically bad.

    Plus you will be riveted by watching Twins games in September when they need to win 12 of their last 30 to cover, and they are trotting out the corpse of Nick Blackburn.

    Good times.


    • J-Dub
      March 15, 2013

      Thankfully, I don’t see names like “Blackburn” and “Pavano” on the roster, but I’m not sure how much confidence I have in guys named “Worley ” and “Pelfrey.”


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